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 Post subject: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:40 pm 
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I twisted my left knee at SDRD last week, and while it seems fine 90% of the time, there is a certain kind of fall onto that knee that can feel painful now.

I have seen people use a number of things that are supposed to protect against twisting, but what actually works? I have these bandages that are like not very good gaskets and probably have mostly placebo protective effect.

I have seen people use those plastic brace things, but that's seems quite an extreme measure, or not?

Anyone tried using the atom knee pads as gaskets (as I have heard people do)?

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:46 pm 
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I don't know whether any knee braces are better at protecting against this sort of thing, but make sure that you don't use wheels that are too grippy or too slippy, as they can both contribute to knee injuries of this type.

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:47 pm 
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And on a related note, are there specific strengthening or other exercises that one should do to prevent this kind of injury in the first place?

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:48 pm 
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Duncan Disorderly wrote:
I don't know whether any knee braces are better at protecting against this sort of thing, but make sure that you don't use wheels that are too grippy or too slippy, as they can both contribute to knee injuries of this type.

Could you clarify this? Are you saying that suboptimal wheels make you fall in certain ways?

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:56 pm 
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Not from falling - if your wheels grip to the track too much, then twisting motions such as transitions or any of the plough/hockey stop/powerslide family of stops can result in your foot staying put while the rest of you continues to rotate. Wheels that are too slippy can also cause or exacerbate injury as suddenly losing your footing can wrench your knee.

(NB I am no physio or anything like that so this is purely my own observation rather than any great biomechanical insight)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:06 pm 
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Duncan Disorderly wrote:
Not from falling - if your wheels grip to the track too much, then twisting motions such as transitions or any of the plough/hockey stop/powerslide family of stops can result in your foot staying put while the rest of you continues to rotate. Wheels that are too slippy as suddenly losing your footing can wrench your knee.

(NB I am no physio or anything like that so this is purely my own observation rather than any great biomechanical insight)


Wow, epiphany moment! I've had this problem the last few weeks, and now that I think about it, it's since COLA has had a floor change and there were a few times when I had the wrong wheels on. I also felt knee pain at Barcelona (did I mention I played in Barcelona), because my wheels were too grippy and stopping and braking was quite hard work. So this actually makes a lot of sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:23 pm 
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The TSG knee gaskets have removable steel inserts down the sides that are supposed to help protect your knee from twisting.

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:00 pm 
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Imho a lot of injuries come from skating on floors with a very different grip or slip to what you are used to. Usually because wheel hardness/softness is not changed or just literally the surface no matter what wheel you use is a foreign feeling.

I remember when VRDL moved from a spongey/rubbery plastic sports court (crazy grippy) to super slippy concrete, we had lots of injuries. Then after a while we went back to the sports court venue for a bout and there were injuries. And yes, mostly of the twisted knee variety.

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:21 am 
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Lisa Goers wrote:

I have seen people use those plastic brace things, but that's seems quite an extreme measure, or not?


The knee brace I wear absolutely stops any twisting in any direction a knee is not supposed to go. It also costs about £400... :(

I can show you a few preventative strengthening exercises from my Physio though if you want

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:41 am 
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I wear a Macdavid metal knee brace to stop moment in my knee cap, after dislocated it. here is a link, I have never had any moment in last 2+ years of wearing it for Roller derby.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mcdavid-Pro-Sta ... id+support

prices vary I spent about £60 for mine.

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 Post subject: Re: Things that actually protect your knee from twisting?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:43 am 
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It's worth noting that it's worth building up to grippier wheels on surfaces as it will build and strengthen your power and abilities to cope with different bouting surfaces.
Gradual increases and decreases in traction will force you to develop new techniques for stopping and moving on the track.

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